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HOW LONG WILL GOD PUNISH WRONGDOERS?

In the New Testament the Greek word most translators give as “forever" or "eternal" is “aion” from  which comes the English word eon, meaning a period of time or an age. The related Greek adjective aionian means age-long. The Hebrew equivalent is “olam” also basically means "age," or sometimes “world."

The words in both languages are for periods of time that are long but of indefinite and unknown length.  None of the words refers to a known set period of time or an infinite length of time.

The earliest Christians were Greek Jews so they spoke Biblical Greek and Hebrew.  They knew a scripture that we today think of as saying God uses “everlasting” fire actually spoke of a fiery or fire-like punishment of long but not eternal duration.

This agrees with 1 John 4:8 saying that God’s main characteristic is “love.”  To be just, our heavenly Father appropriately punishes misconduct but His punishment or chastisement is never inappropriate, unduly harsh, unjust, unfair, off-balance, or unloving.

Besides mistranslation of the Greek and Hebrew words, another factor to consider is history.  For example, the Jewish historian Josephus wrote  that the Pharisees branch of Judaism taught that sin would bring eternal torment.  Of course, Greek and Roman pagans also believed in eternal punishment. 

Today, too, many groups stress the idea of “eternal” punishment.   You can only present the facts to individuals in such groups and they have to decide if to change their minds or not.  However, sometimes even when they don’t seem to agree with you, secretly within they do.

WHAT ABOUT HELL AND HELLFIRE?
IF EVILDOERS JUST SLEPT FOREVER, WOULD THAT BE JUSTICE FOR THEIR VICTIMS?

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NOTE: Credit for the most insightful thoughts in the following about Hell (Sheol, Hades) and in particular about its location and even its change of location, goes to David A. Reed who was an Elder among Jehovah's Witnesses and who is now a prolific writer of Christian literature.

Getting to sleep after death is peaceful, and so is it truly justice for violent, wicked people to get to just sleep forever, their victims thus not having lost out on justice?  Should the only punishment for a person who killed and tortured a million people be the same as for others who did fewer things that are wrong?  Yet the Watchtower Society over Jehovah’s Witnesses says they and only they have all the right answers, that all the dead just sleep, both the evildoers and peaceful people whom the evildoers hurt!  Watchtower says it’s unfair for God to punish the wicked with fire as Christ and others say and most all Christians believe.  They teach all verses that tell of punishment by fire or torment must just all be symbolic.   Regardless of Watchtower's views, if God judges that some kind of strong punishment does befit some extremely wicked people, perhaps even to varying degrees, well, then whatever God may have decided is right.  His being God, who is totally holy or perfect, means that His judgments are also perfectly right and fair. 

Watchtower says it’s unfair for God to punish the wicked with fire as Christ and others say and most all Christians believe.  They teach all verses that tell of punishment by fire or torment must just all be symbolic.   On the other hand, if God judges that severe punishment does befit some extremely wicked people, perhaps even to varying degrees, well, then whatever God may have decided is right.  His being God, who is totally holy or perfect, means that His judgments are also perfectly right.

So for Watchtower heads to go beyond what God has inspired in the Bible, or to judge as fair or unfair what the scriptures say, shows an extreme arrogance.  When they add or take away words, as when they deleted Lord and added Jehovah in the New Testament, that too is wrong, dangerous and grievous.     


When we read Acts 24:25 (please do so) and discover that Paul told Felix there is a coming scary judgment, are we to just out-of-hand mark it as just being symbolic, or didn’t Paul indeed speak of a scary judgment and mean exactly what he said?  Paul also wrote, “keep working out your own salvation with fear and trembling” (Philippians 2:12), he also clearly meant what he said.  Just sleep away forever would not be a “punishment” that would lead anyone to be in fear of it or trembling. 


Getting to sleep forever could even be viewed as a reward for evildoers, a comforting thought for them when they get ready to go kill or otherwise harm innocent victims.  It is definitely an anti-Christ view and misteaching. Because Watchtower teaches JWs to say the wicked sleep in death instead of being punished by literal fire, as if punished by fire by being totally isolated from God, etc, their teaching also diminishes the Good News that Christ died so that all might be saved, stated by Christ at John3:16.  It’s a kind of denial of Christ and the goodness of his having given up his perfect human body and life, the Good News that humans can be resurrected and live happily.


The Bible says that at death the body is no longer conscious, but other scriptures show that the soul continues and definitely is conscious.  The unconscious body turns back into dust, but the soul moves on as a non-fleshly being, that is as a spirit.   The Watchtower Society’s misteaching, which they push Jehovah’s Witnesses to keep proclaiming at doors, also makes scriptures saying the grievously wicked are punished seem a lie, and it shows a major distrust in the Bible’s teaching that God, unlike imperfect humans, is right in His judgments and judges perfectly. 


Revelation 6:9 says that souls rewarded with new life as spirits after having been slain are in heaven, still conscious of and concerned about what happens on earth.  Christ says at Luke 12:5  there is also the opposite of a reward for some after death:  "Do not fear those who kill the body and after this are not able to do anything more.  But I will indicate to you whom to fear: Fear him who after killing has authority to throw into Gehenna.”


Isaiah 14:9-11 says upon entering Sheol or the afterlife, those already there speak about how those there are reduced in power.  So it too confirms the existence of an afterlife.  John 3:13 says "No man has ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of man.." Even Jacob expected to go to sheol (Hebrews for grave or afterlife) after dying.  Acts 2:31 says that after dying Christ also went to hades (Greek for grave or afterlife), preached to spirits imprisoned there but he was not abandoned or left there. (1 Peter 3:19)

Christ gave a parable, a story that does not consist of symbols but which is illustrative for making a larger point.  In the parable he said that a rich man and a beggar named Lazarus both died and went to the afterlife (hades).  The rich man was suffering from the fire there, so he asked Abraham to let the Lazarus give him some water.   Abraham said that was not possible due to the rich man’s former life, and besides, a gulf was located between them.  So in hades, sheol, or the afterlife, the beggar Lazarus was rewarded getting to enjoy the afterlife with Abraham.  Sheol or the afterlife is shown to consist of two areas or conditions, one enjoyble, the other one that unrepentant wrongdoers rightly need to fear.  (Luke 16:19-31)


Watchtower likes to point out that what Christ said was a parable and proclaim that a parable is symbolic.  It is not symbolic but illustrative.  Look it up in a decent dictionary and see for yourself.  Also, even if it were not a parable but totally symbolic, it still makes the overall points that in one way or another God does give appropriate justice to those who have done grievous wrong things when alive while also rewarding those who though imperfect are sincerely sorry for wrongs they have done.


In the Bible when Christ was dying he told a repentant wrongdoer hanging near him that today that man would be in paradise with him.  So, upon death, they both went to the afterlife and for Christ and the repentant wrongdoer, this was not the afterlife, Sheol or Hades of torment, but that which was Abrahamic or paradise-like. (Luke 23:43)  But scriptures also indicate that the paradise-like afterlife for sincere, decent persons, would not remain in Sheol or Hades, that is not stay with the place or condition of torment.


In fact, Christ said a time would come when many came from east and west to sit with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob “in the kingdom of heaven." (Matthew 8:11)   God was not ashamed of the patriarchs Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, so after Christ had received resurrection, they too were transferred from Hades, on up to “heavenly Jerusalem.”  So, getting to live amidst the stunning glories of the star-packed heaven or what moderns also call outer space is a reward for the spirits of all righteous people as instituted since the ransom sacrifice of Christ. (Hebrews 12:22-23; Eph 4:8-10)  

Interestingly, Watchtower heads keep on calling and misteaching JWs to teach that Hades, Sheol or Hell is or a purely symbolic place or condition, but yet they do not equally call heaven purely symbolic.  Instead they say it exists but say that the number of those which Revelation says will go there, that is 144,000, is a literal number, although a Great Crowd will live on Earth.  In fact Revelation is chock-full of symbolisms including various numbers, and if you will please read Revelation 19:1 you will see for yourself that it says the “Great Crowd” is in heaven.


Our bodies of flesh are dying but if we have not grieved God’s Holy Spirit, then we have the resurrection hope.  When Christ returns, those then alive will have their bodies changed in a twinkling into imperishable spirit bodies. Those already with Christ as spirits in heaven will be resurrected with bodies upon earth.  (2 Cor. 4:14-5:8; 1 Thess 4:15-17; 1 Cor. 15:42-58)  No human knows when such changes of fleshly bodies and spirit bodies will occur, nor do we know all the details.

Likewise, we do not know all the details about how God will mete out justice to the various wrongdoers who have died.  For example, will the man who robbed a bank to feed his hungry family suffer as long and as much as another man who robbed ten banks out of pure greediness?  It would seem not, but then that is only a guess.  Only God knows for sure.  Also, will God resurrect only good Christians or is the resurrection hope open to non-Christians since Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David were Jews; and Job was an “Oriental” not said to have been Jewish but definitely considered righteous?

Watchtower has said it has all the answers even though it backs off and proclaims it has new and different light, having done so many times on things.  All good, decent persons who truly love and put Christ first among Jehovah’s Witnesses need to come out of the Watchtower Society, draw close to God Almighty.  Being a witnessing Christian or associating with other Christians via the fellowship of Christian Witnesses in far better than being a Jehovah’s Witness misled by Watchtower instead of the one and only most Faithful and Discreet Slave who is Christ himself.